You wrote that lack us a right to the land

For you who claim to be neither economist or financial and find economic speech too invasive, is that this crisis has changed your point of view

This financial crisis is just one of many red lights which lit. But if you think that it is the only one, it is wrong. Cite me today, I ask you, what is not in crisis. I am University; I taught in many universities in the world. The University is in global crisis for twenty-five years. The planet is in ecological crisis; everyone knows. Health, hospitals are in crisis. I do not place our habitat that is not in a crisis as significant that that you note for finance and the economy.

What is the extent of the autumn storm changed somewhat your vision

If we had seen any time over the past twenty-five years I could describe you the extent of the storm experienced teachers, teachers of secondary and superior. The generation has changed, knowledge has changed, the transmission has changed... What we had in education is a tsunami of the same importance that you lived in finance. Yours crisis made more noise, but society has not lent to the tsunami experienced by his children attention to the extent of the event. She prefers his money to his children. I often say that people do not realize to what will be the next adult generations. I see the importance of your crisis, billions at stake, the collapse of some fortunes. But do you have awareness of the collapse of the knowledge There are more latin, there are more Greek, there is more poetry, there is more literary education. The teaching of science is collapsing around.

This is not a crisis, this French one also

Colossal error. I teach in the United States. The collapse is far more important in the United States. All secondary teaching collapsed. Everyone believes that it is the fault of such Minister. It began in 1968 this crisis, it was world, it remains world. Do you want me to to give you another crisis We were 40 of farmers among assets in 1900 and the other 60 how many trades were in connection with agriculture Today, in France, farmers are less than 4. This is an another gigantic tsunami. When I was born, we were a billion and a half on the Earth. We are 7 billion soon. All these crises débutent after the second world war and begin to see in the Decade 1960-1970. Everything moves at the same time: agriculture, religion... Vatican 2, this is the beginning of a great crisis of Catholicism. There is fundamentalism precipitation in most of the monotheistic religions. There is a crisis in the military. There is worldwide a hyperpower - no one could go to war in the United States - that expense 1,000 billion for a war against one of the weaker countries of the world - the Iraq - and earning does not. It is the "Homo sapiens" which is completely transformed for fifty years. It is not society that has changed, it is the human condition. Look at life expectancy that is passed in a few generations from 30 to 75 years. Many men reaching 60 without having never suffered. Body has changed, the nature report has changed, the birth and death report has changed and nothing has changed in our political and economic institutions. The institutions are as if nothing had changed, and you wouldn't either a crisis Policies but also the media and companies do as if it was in 1950.

The fault for that

It is the fault of the philosophers. Philosophers have not seen the extent of the changes in the world. Why Because they were engaged since Sartre in the policy. It is yet in one of periods in the most exciting it has experienced. I see all the institutions as really dinosaurs

Our current President is nevertheless deemed to be modern. Compared example. What do you think

It's the same thing. I would say even that General de Gaulle was more modernist. It was the Caravel, the atomic bomb, the common market... This is not because the trampling is excited that this is not a trampling. That said, I cast the stone in person; It is extremely difficult in a period like this to see the output. I see where it is but I have no solution to give you.

After the crisis of 1929, often raised about the current crisis, there was the rise of the fascismes and war. You often express the anguish of war in your books.

I wrote "The war" to point that the war that we are doing today is not a war between the men but the war that the men are in the world. Our relationship to the planet is a report of terrorism. We are winning this war against the world, i.e. losing.

But the war between men You seem to do a lot of confidence in the idea that Europe protects US.

I was born in 1930 to a father gassed at Verdun and a mother who was the only one to marry his college because all possible boyfriends were dead. I've lived in 1936, 1940, the war of Algeria, Suez... Between my birth and thirty years, it has been the war, the war, the war... But since then, the France is at peace. It is peace for more than sixty years, what has never happened since the Trojan war. I remember, at Stanford, a day before the war in Iraq, I had cut out a photo of a Summit of Heads of

Back to the war against the planet begins to worry many people.

I think that this crisis there is really new and that it will change the world. If the change goes somewhere, it will pass by. This is why I have much written about it. Everyone has the deep awareness of the importance of the problem today.

Even in the US

The United States were overdue. There were still in the United States two years of the people who thought that ecology was a conspiracy against America.

When you speak to your students in the United States, you have very different reactions that they are in France

When one teaches, there is more to national audiences. It is the composition of the cocktail of nationalities which varies...

When read you, one sometimes has the impression you are favourable to decay to solve the problem...

I don't know, I'm not sure, but I want to talk about the disappearance of the dinosaurs. We love discuss the reasons why dinosaurs died. But it is simple: they have disappeared because they grew. It is their size that killed. Life may not exceed a certain size. Death of growth. Montesquieu wondered what are the causes of the decadence of the Romans. But it is simple. The Romans were victims of their size. The size of the Roman Empire became such that it could only to collapse. In the economy, I don't know, but in life, grow, grow, you périrez. It is "The Lion and the Midge" Fountain. The lion is nothing against the Midge. Another intuition on our relationship to nature. In the history of science, it is clear that there are disciplines that form the centre of gravity of knowledge at a given time. Before, it was the mechanics; now, what are the life sciences. Tomorrow, the economy will be centered on the life sciences, not the mechanics. This, I can say. Hurry to change your investment.

You give great importance to the right. Our world has a lot of problems of regulation: finance, rights of copyright on the Internet...

In a society, there are areas of law and lawless areas. The forest was once a lawless area infested criminals and thieves. One day, but a traveler passing through Sherwood Forest found that all the robbers wore a kind of uniform; they wore a Green Hat and they were under the command of Robin Hood. Robin, that is what it means Those who wear the dress of the judge. Robin embodies the law which is being born in a place where there was no right. All the laws that we want to do on the copyright and the property on the Internet, this is the joke. Internet is a lawless as the forest of which we are talking about. Or a right in a right place is never valid in a lawless place. It must be that in this place of lawless emerges a new right. In tomorrow's world must emerge a new right. If you want to regulate the world today with the old right, you will fail, exactly as it was on the Internet. It is expected that in the forest of the Internet could invent a new law on the place of lawlessness. More generally, in this crisis that is glimpse of a new world, this is not the former right will prevail.

You wrote that lack us a right to the land.

Yes, it is this that I wanted to say by writing "the natural contract". Have with the world of relations of parasite but symbiotic relations, to enter into contract.

You can not imagine an international organization enacting the new law

I remember a dialogue with the former Secretary General of the United Nations, Boutros Boutros-Ghali. Whenever I'm talking about water, told me, my contacts tell me that they are not here to talk about the water but to defend the interests of the countries they represent. As long as there are intergovernmental institutions, the Earth will not be represented. Look at what is happening to the fish. We discuss their quotas with other European countries to be as as possible. During this time the fish disappear. Fish do not have the floor. Well, I am for this utopia, that fish have the floor. I would like a global institution that represents water, Earth, fire... the living. It should be scholars who have made the oath does not represent a country, an ideology, a company... and that represent fish, and air and water. International institutions are also populated by dinosaurs. A policy was sent to represent the France for the poles! You realize I really like Michel Rocard but he knows the Poles like me Korean.

Finally, you just quoted us the fountain that you like so much to do. The economic situation is ready

The pattern of a large French Bank which is my friend invited me to lunch some time ago. It was very bored by this crisis. "Listen, I said, that the Americans have been all these adventurous loans, I understand; they have never learned at school "The dairy and milk pot". But you, you know that the pot will fall head at some point. Why has your bank taken such risks so that you know by heart "All bubbles burst. "The dairy and milk pot", this is a perfect financial reasoning. She reasons exactly as a golden boy.

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